Comments on: A Prescription for an Ethical Religious Practice http://www.shma.com/2009/10/a-prescription-for-an-ethical-religious-practice/ Journal of Jewish Responsibility Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:59:30 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Estee http://www.shma.com/2009/10/a-prescription-for-an-ethical-religious-practice/comment-page-1/#comment-2089 Estee Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:29:29 +0000 http://www.shma.com/?p=1203#comment-2089 Everything Cathy said is entirely true! I live in a small town where the only big business is a pork processing plant. Of course no one has been arrested, but I would definitely guarantee that at least 90% of the workers are illegal immigrants. Also, the Rubashkins never did mistreat their workers! I have actually been to their plant, and the workers are not only treated kindly and with respect, but they like the Rubashkins. Interestingly, they are being offered citizenship in this country (for no reason) immediately if they testify against the Rubashkins. Does that sound like justice? The Rubashkins really help people, give tons of tzedaka, and are true tzadikim! People have to get their facts straight! Everything Cathy said is entirely true! I live in a small town where the only big business is a pork processing plant. Of course no one has been arrested, but I would definitely guarantee that at least 90% of the workers are illegal immigrants. Also, the Rubashkins never did mistreat their workers! I have actually been to their plant, and the workers are not only treated kindly and with respect, but they like the Rubashkins. Interestingly, they are being offered citizenship in this country (for no reason) immediately if they testify against the Rubashkins. Does that sound like justice? The Rubashkins really help people, give tons of tzedaka, and are true tzadikim! People have to get their facts straight!

]]> By: Cathy Porter http://www.shma.com/2009/10/a-prescription-for-an-ethical-religious-practice/comment-page-1/#comment-1856 Cathy Porter Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:59:44 +0000 http://www.shma.com/?p=1203#comment-1856 Give me a break! The Rubashkin family has done lots of lots of true chessid. What about you? You are just a talker and blow hard and by the way thanks for raising the price of kosher meat. Suggestion - visit any meat processing plant. It is hard work and the conditions are always difficult. For that reason it is largely immigrant workers that don't care what they do as long as they can make a living. Maybe you want to take that away from them - not uncommon for a do gooder. Give me a break! The Rubashkin family has done lots of lots of true chessid. What about you? You are just a talker and blow hard and by the way thanks for raising the price of kosher meat. Suggestion – visit any meat processing plant. It is hard work and the conditions are always difficult. For that reason it is largely immigrant workers that don’t care what they do as long as they can make a living. Maybe you want to take that away from them – not uncommon for a do gooder.

]]> By: Ish Echad http://www.shma.com/2009/10/a-prescription-for-an-ethical-religious-practice/comment-page-1/#comment-1835 Ish Echad Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:36:12 +0000 http://www.shma.com/?p=1203#comment-1835 There is something faulty about utilizing the role of a frame around lenses as a metaphor for the relationship between Kashrut and ethics. A glasses frame literally holds the lenses in place. Thus the lenses are the raison d'être for the existence of the frame. The same is NOT the case for ethics and Kashrut. That there is some connection between the two is assumed rather than proven in your article. If ethics are in some way the essence Kashrut practices then by all means prove the association. Keeping Kosher may connect you personally to a covenant between God and Humanity. Please don't make that personal association into a universal assertion. For myself Kashrut connects me to a special covenant between God and the Jewish People. I however would never force this assertion uopon you. There is something faulty about utilizing the role of a frame around lenses as a metaphor for the relationship between Kashrut and ethics.
A glasses frame literally holds the lenses in place. Thus the lenses are the raison d’être for the existence of the frame.

The same is NOT the case for ethics and Kashrut. That there is some connection between the two is assumed rather than proven in your article.

If ethics are in some way the essence Kashrut practices then by all means prove the association. Keeping Kosher may connect you personally to a covenant between God and Humanity. Please don’t make that personal association into a universal assertion.

For myself Kashrut connects me to a special covenant between God and the Jewish People. I however would never force this assertion uopon you.

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